Hate talk: let’s stop this nonsense

In my very poetic vision of things – or call it naiveness if you wish – internet shall be a place where people from across the globe coexist peacefully together, no matter from what geographical, cultural or religious background one belongs to.

In the current social media era though, it feels very much the opposite: for whatever reason, any discussion topic can easily generate an aggressive tone.

Welcome to hate talk.

There’s an abundant “if you hold a different opinion, you are against me and we must hate each other” kind of attitude.


This is more than evident as I write these lines. With the ongoing political turmoil unfolding in Hong Kong, online discussions are polarized to the point that whatever your stance and comment, chances are your thoughts will get twisted and you will get heavy fire from the opposite corner who will hate you and greet you with the best of their repertoire of offensive language.

Let’s talk about photography instead

Measuring Light is about photography, so let’s not get side tracked. But still – and this is the reason I’m writing this post – these days online photography discussions are peppered by lots of hate talk as well.

Example? How about the common hatred towards Leica?


It’s a snobbish brand, it’s not worth the money, it’s for people who get the camera just to show-off, it’s a fashion statement and not for real photographers, Canon and Nikon are cheaper and far superior, …

You will read a lot of this in online forums and photo blogs. Interestingly though, most of the Leica haters had never owned or used a Leica. Talk about emotion over reason.

The latest war: sensor size

With Fuji GFX medium format system in full swing and other brands such as Canon, Nikon, Sony and Panasonic betting on full frame, there has been an escalating war for megapixel count and sensor size.

It’s a good discussion up to some point. I often question myself the added values of medium format and if it’s worth the investment and extra weight on my backpack. Out of curiosity, I even published my own sensor size comparison test here.

If you ask me, everything is relative and there is no straight answer to this. And, at the end of the day, after measuring the pros & cons of each system, it all depends on your needs and your type of photography.

But again, what I can’t stand is the hate talk associated with this, with people who are not interested in understanding and accepting facts as they are, and prefer to adopt a tunnel vision combined with a hard to understand brand loyalty and / or hatred.

While one can legitimately hold its own opinion towards whatever topic, the one thing I don’t understand is the harsh tone adopted on doing so.

Why can’t netizens discuss things objectively, without angriness and with good manners?

Would these people talk to each other like this in a face-to-face situation?

Let’s stop this nonsense once and for all.




One comment

  1. Quite agree. The level of polarization fopisted on us is appalling, to the extent that civilized discussion let alone disagreement is becoming almost impossible. We are entering very dark times if we don’t resist this trend.Your point about not being able to tolerate an opposing view is well made. Indeed, so many “liberals” only subscribe to free speeech as long as it’s theirs.
    Back to my favourite subject, cameras.
    If film days, I was an avid Canon fan. The move to digital was Olympus. I still have my old E-1 which although only 5Mp when paired with the 14-50mm Panasonic Elmar is still superb.

    I now use 3 systems.
    Micro 4/3rds Olympus EM-1 Mk2 and Panasonic GX80. Lenses, Lumix 7-14mm f4, Olympus 12-200mm, Panasonic 20mm f1.7 and the superb Zuiko-Digital Macro 50mm f2 via and adaptor.

    Nikon D300S (cannot bear to part with it) Nikon 16-85mm VR, Sigma 30mm f1.4 DC Art (superb), Tamron SP 70-300mm VC USD and the incredible Nikon P900 which despite its small sensor, is incredible.

    Sony. DSC-R1 (a classic) Sony SLT-A99 Sigma 24mm f2.8 Super-Wide Mk2 (an absolute diamond), Sony 50mm f1.4, Minolta 24-105mm D (SHARP), Minolta 100-300mm APO D (razor sharp) and to crown it a superb Minolta 100-400mm APO.

    A few others of my “keepers. Panasonic LX7, Olympus C-8080z, Sony DSC-F828, Canon G6.

    The E-M1 is my usual “carry about” with the 12-200, and either the LX7 or GX80 in my pocket.

    The A99 is my go to for low light, or, being full frame for slide and film copying.

    I used to work for City Camera Exchange in London, in the late 70s, so got spoiled early on.

    Favourite film cameras, although I havent shot film for years, my trusty Leica M3, collapsible Summicron F2, Mimolta SR-T101 (58mm f1.4 MC-Rokkor), Canon AE1 with Tamron SP 28-85mm.

    Great website, now bookmarked.



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